Albertans have rejected referendum on independence
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October 20, 2026
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gaiagraphia
Not just a vote on independence: >These figures are regularly updating, and could change as the count goes on. >It is now 02:15 local time (04:15 EST/09:15 BST), here's a look at what the early results have been indicating as of the last half hour: - Referendum: Should Alberta remain a province of Canada? Option one (remain) 1,107,558, option 2 346,261 - Do you support the government of Alberta taking increased control of immigration? Yes, 405,648, no 299,946 - Do you support a law saying only Canadian citizens being eligible for certain social services? Yes 399, 675, No 267,770 - Do you support a law saying all people with non permanent legal immigration have to have lived in Alberta for at least a year before qualifying for province funded social support programs? Yes 282,373, No 210,102 - Do you support the government of Alberta charging those with non-permanent immigration status in the province for use of health and eucation systems? Yes 223,342, No 168,873 - Do you support introducing voter ID for Alberta elections? Yes 202,367, No 130, 494 - Do you support the Alberta government working with other provinces to make amendments to the Canadian constitution? Yes, 141, 296, No 137,697 - Do you support the Alberta government in working with other willing provinces to amend Canada's constitution to abolish the unelected federal senate? Yes 120,311, No, 106, 538 - Do you support the Alberta government working with other provinces to allow provinces to opt out of federal programs? Yes 117,128, No, 123,052 - Do you support the Alberta government working with other willing provinces to amend the constitution to better protect provincial rights from federal interference? Yes 119,149, No 116,141
beloch
For those wondering what the heck is going on here... Alberta comprises a small (but increasing) proportion of Canada's population and has historically been treated in a somewhat colonial manner by Eastern Canada. Alberta separatism has been around for a long time, but it has not surged recently, nor did Albertans elect a provincial government that openly ran on separatism. So why is Alberta having a referendum on separation? To understand what's going on, we need to look back to 2015. The Progressive Conservatives (PC's) had run the province for over 40 years. They lost an election to a centre-left party because there were two popular right-wing parties splitting the right-wing vote: The PC's and the Wildrose. The PC's, at the time, were not particularly conservative. They were predominantly urban, socially liberal, and fiscally irresponsible. The party had been fiscally conservative a couple of decades previously, but spending discipline was long gone. The Wildrose were primarily rural, far-right radicals who counted raging homophobes among their ranks and openly expressed the desire to put an end to the dominance of big cities that hold the bulk of Alberta's population. They wanted radical change, fast . After their defeat, the bulk of the remaining Wildrose and PC's merged to form the United Conservative Party (UCP) and put an end to vote splitting. Although both parties were right-wing, they were broadly incompatible. Jason Kenney, the new UCP leader, defused an immediate explosion by ensuring that veterans of neither side rose to top positions. Instead, Kenney promoted predominantly first-time MLA's who were personally loyal to him. This kept the party together, but resulted in a fairly inept government that made a lot of blunders after they were elected to government in 2019. Here's where the separatists enter the picture. The UCP under Kenney was anything but united, and the government's blunders were starting to make Kenney unpopular. The rift between former PC's and Wildrose was waiting to be exploited. Separatists and former Wildrosers formed special interest groups like "Take Back Alberta" that stacked UCP party conventions. While prevailing political views in Alberta remained largely the same, the UCP rapidly came to be dominated by people who wanted the former PC's and Kenney's loyalists gone . They ousted Kenney and placed a former Wildrose leader, Danielle Smith, on the party throne. Smith called a snap election and won a new mandate from voters without breathing a word about separation or most of the other policies that wound up as questions #1-9 of this referendum. Her strategy was to win a four year mandate before voters woke up to what was going on. It worked. Kenney's cabinet was rapidly ousted and replaced with, primarily, former Wildroser's. These were people who, if not open separatists, were friendly to the separatists who had put them in power. People with MAGA links, like Devin Dreeshan (the Transport Minister), figured prominently in Smith's cabinet. Smith publicly claims to be a federalist but, ultimately, she is the primary reason Alberta is now having a referendum on separation. This is already a long post, so I'm not going to even start explaining the hoops she magicked into existence and then jumped through to make the referendum happen. Whether she's a closet separatist or simply dependent on separatists to maintain her hold on power makes little difference. Alberta is now effectively ruled by the Wildrose 2.0. This is a party that caters to the rural, radical, and separatist special interests that dominate its internal party politics. In effect, Albertans elected a separatist government without realizing it.
cf100clunk
An OP based in Canada and not the U.K. here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50163581