AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

TimCTRL

Yet none of them would have been here if Google hadn't published "Attention is all you need", the irony.

KoolKat23

Perhaps I'm imagining it but the entire industry was build on published research, this "AI wave" is at odds with that and seems to be driven by greed (although they'll claim some arms race or something to help themselves sleep at night). There should be a new ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) policy being pushed recognizing the important role this plays. Although ESG and all norms have been set aside in this grim new world it seems.

sublinear

> “If we were racing forward on cancer-curing AI, I would be like, ’Fantastic, full steam ahead,’” she says. “But that’s not what we’re racing toward, right?” We're not racing towards anything. We've been going in circles for years.

semiinfinitely

gate keepers of antiquated practice decry people realizing they they dont need to get past the gate

egonschiele

As far as I can tell, the paper never actually mentions the companies who aren't publishing papers. Open AI, Anthropic, and hugging face are all specifically mentioned as companies that do publish papers. Just FYI for anyone else who reads "AI's top startups" and immediately assumes OpenAI and Anthropic.

odyssey7

Once something goes commercial, academics have to consider what progress would be research-worthy, rather than a half-baked prototype for a product or feature. Companies can’t be expected to publish their confidential and proprietary information about their feature development, and academics should consider projects that would have higher impact. If you’re taking up a seat in a PhD program tinkering with would-be feature ideas for an existing major tech company, you should really just get hired by that tech company, where the resources are abundant and the degree is not required.

raincole

Do startups in other fields constantly publish their research?

xyst

That’s because most of its slop, and not reproducible

ltbarcly3

All startups barely publish their research, because doing that would be incredibly stupid for the most part, because they want to sell the stuff they invent not give it away for free.

paxys

I’m not sure why this is so surprising? AI company does not automatically mean research company. The vast majority of new startups popping up over the last few years have commercial motivations, and use models built by someone else. Why are you expecting them to publish scientific papers? 50% of startups contributing to public research is actually a crazy good outcome. That’s far more than I had expected.

amazingamazing

Trade secrets are back, baby! More to the point, without determining how much work is “worthy” of a paper it is unclear how much this matters. Most AI companies are either a product and marketing layer over a model or not meaningfully moving any dimension to be worthy of a paper. Also, formal papers and blogs and “cards” are all being intertwined.

EGreg

Funny, as ONE PERSON with Claude, I've been on a tear when it comes to publishing my own research: https://arxiv.org/search/?searchtype=author&query=Magarshak%... So I know that smart people in those companies can definitely publish. In fact, a whole team should probably be publishing like no tomorrow!

randomImmigrant

What the blogificafion of AI research has done is allowed all kinds of claims and terminology related to AI to be introduced and taken up in a manner replicating social media dynamics. And that is simply not healthy. We’re fast reaching a place where any claim can be backed up with a set of numbers from a number of experiments run in some gamified environment or the other, with little concern for if it all adds up to anything. It’s a vicious loop, because this same junk then goes in to train the next models which help spit out the next set of models AND blogs/papers. The net effect is not dissimilar to setting termites loose in a library.

aeternum

The age of the dark forest is upon us

Aurornis

The article is vague about the companies in the paper, for some reason. In the paper, OpenAI is at the top of the chart for cumulative citations. MEGVII, Hugging Face, Waymo, Momenta, Preferred Netowkrs, Anthropic, Owkin, and Databricks, and Aibee follow (in that order). Yes, that is citations, not publications, but they explain that they're trying to use that as a proxy for significance, albeit an imperfect one. Companies like Google aren't included because they aren't unicorn startups.

annoyingnoob

Startups exist to profit, not necessarily publish.

TrackerFF

I don't expect non-foundational or non-frontier startups to do, or publish much heavy hitting research. "AI" has become such a ubiquitous description, it is probably easier to find non-AI startups.

deadbabe

There is no reason to publish anything in the AI era until you have reaped as much benefit from it as you are satisfied with. "Building in public" and "Researching in public" now means someone can swoop in with an AI and copy you instantly and become your competition overnight. Keep secrets. Even at work, I have come to realize if I simply horde my accumulated custom AI built tools and productivity boosting tricks for myself, I can make myself more competitive as an employee. I think this is how you get hired now, not by having a good resume, but by making claims of having special processes and personal tooling design that gets massive productivity ROI.

noosphr

I've been at two startups that have done genuine world first fundamental research. The first tried to publish novel results for 3 years in tier 1 journals before finally doing a preprint and telling the tier one publishers to jump in a fire. The second, and ongoing, isn't publishing anything because of my experience with the first. That and avoiding openAI and Anthropic copying our results and leaving us with nothing to show for six months of work. The papers only come with the pitch deck.

beloch

"But University of Alberta AI ethicist Mohamed Abdalla says the findings reflect the incentives facing commercial AI developers, rather than solely a failure to uphold scientific norms. “It’s not the company’s job to advance science, right?” he says. “The company’s job is to advance money.”" ------------ If everyone holds back their publications, the whole sector moves slower. Yes, it's moving alarmingly fast according to many, but is it moving fast enough that the massive investments in data centres will actually pay off? It's more game theory. Things may go well for one selfish company not publishing in a sea of altruists who publish, but perhaps not if everyone else is selfish too.