AI Is Breaking This Thing We Call Trust

sigalor

I wonder when the people will get that intelligence is not only directed at the external, but only really starts when you look at the internal (joy, pleasure, traumas, taboos, awkwardness, abuse, trust etc.). Look up the word "interoception".

georgemcbay

> AI Is Breaking This Thing We Call Trust An increasingly large percentage of people being lying POS grifters is breaking trust. AI just happens to be a tool that the laziest of that group of people leans on a lot to supercharge their grifts. But our massive and growing trust problem predates and is way deeper than AI.

plaidfuji

> Here’s the thing: most of our habits at work still assume that producing something means you have to understand it. This has only ever been true in a relative sense. Until recently, one was expected to understand the software-level code they wrote. But not the machine code, or the computer internals at a deep level. You trust that those layers work. At some point in the past you couldn’t just trust that. At some point in the near future, you will just trust that the software code works. Instead you’ll just debate the spec (the prompt). Your thinking can move one level up the system hierarchy. Everyone’s can. We’ve done it before, we’ll do it again, and this won’t even be the last time it happens. Let go of the anxiety and let it happen.

lovich

The elite broke trust. No one made people like Sam Altman into a compulsive liar. No one made Musk call a service full self driving, and then make it return liability to the user the second it decides an accident is about to happen. Stop removing agency from the people making the top level decisions and reaping all the rewards. Would you claim that someone who took 5 shots in a row and drove home wasn’t responsible for an accident because the car was what physically did the damage?

Havoc

I worry for the next generation. You and I have a baseline. A brain that did most of it’s developmental phase while there was still some unified accepted version of truth (even if dubious) Future generations will have to develop in a more splintered reality. A world where there is nothing to hold on to. Not even a dubious commonly accepted narrative

Art9681

Every generation has had tech doomers. Every single one. History repeats. Yet we collectively move forward. This time it will be no different. These folks are wasting time when they could be doing something productive.

philbo

I think one way to approach this is by deliberately choosing less capable tools (but still AI-assisted). You don't have to delegate huge tasks to agents wholesale, but it requires fighting against mainstream harnesses to do so because they exist to sell you more tokens. Model providers are not incentivised to offer less autonomous flows. I wrote about this frustration a few months ago [1], then realised that if the model providers won't do it perhaps I should try fixing it myself. So, shameless plug klaxon, I wrote an open-source harness that tries to work more like pair programming and less like code review [2]. As usual, my "Show HN" post [3] sank like a stone, so I think perhaps most engineers aren't really interested in this direction. It is possible though, we don't have to just accept whatever tooling the labs throw at us. [1]: https://philbooth.me/blog/agentic-coding-and-mental-models [2]: https://www.opairdev.org/ [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49625009